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Discasto talk | contr. | es.wiki analysis 23:20, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

File source is not properly indicated: File:Hans Hüttig (1894 - 1980) - SS-kampcommandant - Vught.jpg

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Category:Pages using Photograph template with incorrect parameter

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Hi Hansmuller. Could you please fix your uploads in this maintenance category? --Leyo 12:53, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing this out to me, i am sorry about this (|). I immediately fixed 10. Perhaps AWB is the solution. Kind regards, Hansmuller (talk) 12:06, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done yesterday. Hansmuller (talk) 10:23, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Author and copyright Rome, Chiesa di Santa Maria in Vallicella? - Reply

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Hello... Thanks for the info. I guess the pictures I took are about the paintings and their components (i.e., frame, altar, chapel, etc.) not the sole paintings themselves that cropped everything around it off. That's why I think I can say I am the 'author' of the images -- not the paintings I took of course. Cheers --Mattis (talk) 14:37, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have looked around wiki to see how others define their works and wonder when a picture can become the property of the photographer -- how far away from the paintings or statues do we have to be?? It appears that a vast majority of work of art objects are copyrighted by the photographer. Thanks for the insight. --Mattis (talk) 15:25, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I am going back to my original discussion that if an image is solely of an object, then it certainly belongs to the artist who originated it. However, if the photographer takes a picture with an art object as a part of the whole, then the composition become a new image and it belongs to the the photographer who then by default becomes the 'author'. I don't claim to know the law but it makes sense. Take for example, if I take a picture of a chapel or an altar -- the chapel/altar is not one object but it can be composed of several components that may include the main painting, the frame, the decorations above the paintings, the ceiling, subsidiary paintings, components of the chapel, etc. -- all these are done by different arttists at different times. So my picture is a composite. Anyway, this seems to be very grey area. I probably can't discuss this any longer -- my Internet is dying. --Mattis (talk) 16:09, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Done and Thanks for your help, notice in my oversight or having overlooked the empty description; actually I deviated from my usual links and instead tried to wikify the english articles of Wikipedia, but I often overlook the templates and other mechanics, but they only happen in the description, therefore, I make sure the the reader of the pictures go to my description in the Category and they will see the full description; I admit that often my description is long unlike other editors; this is because most of my photos are valued, rare and heritage, most are not yet photographed due to security reasons in troubled Philippines; best regards and sincerely--Judgefloro (talk) 12:21, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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✓ Done some time ago. Hansmuller (talk) 14:59, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A. C. Oudemans Collection

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Hello! I greatly appreciate you uploading all these files. You've probably noticed that I'm trying to categorize them in respect of current taxonomy. On doing it I found misspelling in the epithet: the caption of these two files (1, 2) is Periglischrus iheringi, not Periglischrus jheringi. So I've renamed the files hoping that won't make any obstacles for your work. Mithril (talk) 18:31, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot! On the description pages at Bioportal they have it wrong also. but the filenames on Commons seem to be OK. I'm glad an expert takes an active interest! PS Gbif concurs more or less, with a lot of question marks, and can't find P. jheringi. Regards, Hansmuller (talk) 09:54, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Hansmuller, please have a look here to update the data: File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - L 0058155 - Freycinetia kinabaluana B.C.Stone - Pandanaceae - Plant type specimen.jpg. Greetings. Orchi (talk) 13:17, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @Orchi, thanks for spotting this grave error - it appears in the upload two registration numbers were given, L 0058155 (wrong, as you found out) for the metadata, and L.1194235 for the image. So i renamed the file to File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - L.1194235 - Freycinetia kinabaluana B.C.Stone - Pandanaceae - Plant type specimen.jpg with correct link back. Thanks for your own beautiful uploads as well! Regards, Hansmuller (talk) 13:21, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Extinct bird videos

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Hi, do you know if the other extinct bird videos from Naturalis that have not been uploaded yet are free too? FunkMonk (talk) 16:40, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@FunkMonk: yes, the license on for example http://bioportal.naturalis.nl/nba/result?language=nl&nba_request=http%253A%252F%252Fapi.biodiversitydata.nl%252Fv0%252F%252Fmultimedia%252Fget-multimedia-object-for-specimen-within-result-set%252F%253FunitID%253DRMNH.AVES.110000 states "CC0". However, we have been asked by Naturalis management to upload the remaining 130 or so extinct bird videos as CC-BY-SA-3.0. So in either case there is no problem. Regards, Hansmuller (talk) 09:00, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cool! Is anyone systematically doing this? And how are the files downloaded? FunkMonk (talk) 13:43, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
User:TeklaLilith and I, ultimately next week i hope, with museum metadata about the specimens. Anyone can take the bare images from medialib.naturalis.nl. Cheers, Hansmuller (talk) 14:57, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be quite interested in this video in particlar[2], will add it to a featured article I've worked on, as well as this one:[3] FunkMonk (talk) 18:23, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Funkmonk. Done, Great Auk with young was asurprise to me! By the way, could you help me with the Notes field in for instance File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - RMNH.AVES.107865 - Phalacrocorax perspicillatus Pallas, 1811 - Spectacled Cormorant - specimen - video.webm? Than i can perhaps repair my error. In my Dutch language zone I see
Donor: Museum St. Petersburg, Rusland.
Nederlands: Familie: Aalscholvers.
Nederlands: Bering-aalscholver.
Vernacular name:

but i wanted to show English values as well. Do you see the same, or can you see the English version as well? 

Donor: Museum St. Petersburg, Rusland. 
English: Family: Cormorants
Dutch: Familie: Aalscholvers.
Vernacular name: English: Spectacled Cormorant Dutch: Bering-aalscholver.

Thanks! Hansmuller (talk) 11:08, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good! I see both the English and Dutch. And by the way, the small auk is not a great auk, but a razorbill, its closest relative. Perhaps it can be added to a note... FunkMonk (talk) 18:33, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Funkmonk: Thank you again, i was too hasty in a naive assumption! Fortunately Wikipedia works. Done. Regards, Hansmuller (talk) 07:16, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The passenger pigeon videos look really nice here[4], extremely cool that there are videos of both sexes and juveniles! I'm polishing up the article for a future Wikipedia front page appearance. FunkMonk (talk) 19:28, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks Hansmuller, it took me so long to fix these photos, Fort Stotsenburg; sorry for the delay, and they are now all well described, for what happened is I overlooked the preview of the files, hence the error in the reading of the description, best wishes and regards, sincerely, --Judgefloro (talk) August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Corvus tristis Lesson & Garnot, 1827

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Wonderful work Hansmuller.But is there a photo of a whole skin of Corvus tristis Lesson & Garnot, 1827? The wiki page has no illustration. Warm regards Notafly (talk) 19:00, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'll have a look at this Sorry Raven, a whole body shot seems to be lacking for all this specimens, for example w:c:File:Naturalis_Biodiversity_Center_-_RMNH.AVES.101730_-_Corvus_tristis_Lesson_&_Garnot,_1827_-_Corvidae_-_bird_skin_specimen.jpeg. Regards, Hansmuller (talk) 08:02, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That is very kind. I have fond memories of Rijksmuseum van Natuurlijke Historie as it was then. I worked for some months with Curt Eisner [5] and Alexey Diakonoff [6] in the 1970s in that old but wonderful building dust and falling through the grille stairways but many great naturalists many from the Dutch East Indies. Notafly (talk) 19:07, 14 September 2015 (UTC) museum of the[reply]

@Notafly: i have looked at 45 specimens of Corvus tristis in the database. Unfortunately, photos focus on the labels attached to the feet and do not show the head! If I find better photos, i'll upload them. Thank you for your recollections of the old museum and your articles on Eisner and Diakonoff. Kind regards, Hansmuller (talk) 08:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Don't over-categorize!

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Hi Hansmuller, please don't over-categorize your images. For instance in your File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - RMNH.AVES.124617 1 - Tachycineta bicolor (Vieillot, 1808) - Hirundinidae - bird skin specimen.jpeg

For further information please read Commons:Categories, particularly paragraph Over-categorization. -- Ies (talk) 09:46, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ies: thanks for your reaction. It is hard for me to assess in a mass upload beforehand whether a category exists or not. To avoid non-categorisation i put organisms both in their supposed genus-category and species-category. The downside of this method is, that when a species-cat exists, nearly always a genus-cat also exists, leading to the problem you signal.
  • Do you have a suggestion to avoid this in an automated way?
Thanks, regards, Hansmuller (talk) 10:31, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
PS. Nice dolphins you just uploaded! Hansmuller (talk) 10:54, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Almost all species have their own category. For very rare species where there might not be, it is simple to take a quick look at each genus page before uploading to see which species if any are red-links — if there are, then create the relevant species category :-). Many species also have a subcategory "Species (taxidermied)" or "Species (museum specimens)"; where these exist, they should be used for specimens like these. Also, if there are numerous images of specimens of a taxon, it is well worth creating such subcategories (see e.g. my recent edits in Category:Hirundo and Category:Delichon) - MPF (talk) 23:47, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@MPF: Yes, i know, thanks. "Almost all species have their own category": this is not my experience: see User:Hansmuller/Sandbox, where i list species and genera of my previous mass uploads from Naturalis (plants, mites, Japanese fish etc. water colours - perhaps the situation is better for birds, though i have found many bird species without a species category and some even without a genus category). Then there is the related taxonomy problem: on Commons the genus might be different from the genus in a database at Naturalis. I would like to have an automatic trick to give appropriate categories or determine before or during the upload whether a category exists. When uploading 100,000 bird images - if they are really available - i unfortunately cannot have systematic quick looks... the lot is a present from Naturalis, i have to take or leave it before December 1st, end of job. Mass uploads all have lamented problems with categorisation, unfortunately. So when a tool comes up, i will embrace it immediately. Kind regards, Hansmuller (talk) 07:35, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! There shouldn't be any bird genera without categories except for an exceedingly small number of (mostly monotypic) rarities from remote areas which we don't have photos of. It could be taxonomic problems; at Commons we follow IOC's taxonomy as it is the most up-to-date. I have noticed one or two where yours used older names. Granted, there'll be fewer categories for plant species, and even less for mites and fish - they're not things that many people take photos of to donate to Commons! - MPF (talk) 07:46, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Fæ: perhaps the bigger uploader User:Fæ has views on these problems, thanks. Hansmuller (talk) 07:37, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@MPF:
@MPF ✓ Done at List_of_species_and_genera_in_Category:Songbird_specimens_at_Naturalis_Biodiversity_Center. Thanks for your help so far, Hansmuller (talk) 15:28, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@MPF This category is meant for a wikipedia session on 4 October in the Rijksmuseum to determine the species, see https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/vogelen. The Rijks supplies paintings, Naturalis these drawings. Strange to ask, but could you please wait until after 4 october, otherwise the material for this session is gone! (My fault, i have uploaded the images early..) Thanks, Hansmuller (talk) 11:23, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
OK!! I'll leave them in that category, though won't remove the species categories I added (e.g. Category:Probosciger aterrimus (illustrations)). MPF (talk) 11:30, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In reply to ping—There are choices to be made for the uploader, there are no firm rules and, whichever path you take, there are always going to be some users who will wish you took a different one :-). In the case of my IA uploads, I use the Flickrtags as a starting point to check for possible categories, however I only add categories that exist on Commons under the same name or a redirect to the name - yeah that's pretty smart, do not have the diffuse or categorise templates on those categories, and limit the number of categories to be added to 5. For that particular project there is always the bucket category (hidden) and the book year category which already exists for all possible years in the history of publishing. In comparison, the BHL uploads do mostly the same thing, however on user request I include a category for the book title even where the category does not exist yet, it has turned out to be an easier approach for volunteers.
Essentially for great upload projects, you really do need to find a way to check category existence (in Pywikibot you use a call like page.exists(), using the Commons API directly you can call up the metadata for the page, though there's probably an even easier way). If you are using the GWToolset, this means doing the category checks at the time of generating a good XML file, as the GWT will not do this for you. It's invisible preparatory work, but worth it, and part of the responsibilities for the large batch uploader that most Commonsists will never know about. It's why we deserve far more barnstars. :-) --Fæ (talk) 12:06, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Identity checks needed

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Hi Hans - could you check these three, please:

All three are cited at source as Dendrocitta occipitalis cinerascens, a taxon from Borneo which has now been split at species rank from Dendrocitta [occipitalis] occipitalis from Sumatra. I renamed the first two to reflect the updated taxonomy, and was about to do so with the third, but saw that its curation tag states it is Dendrocitta occipitalis occipitalis and is from Sumatra; for this, I renamed the file to remove the cinerascens attribution.

The first two, I can't read the curation tags as they are text-side-down, but they need to be checked in the museum to see their source location. The third also needs checking with the museum staff to find out why they added the recent "D. o. cinerascens 180.016.002" tag: do they have good reason to believe that the Sumatra origin is incorrect, perhaps? Thanks! - MPF (talk) 21:30, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@MPF Thanks for your interest. You ll find the flip side of the label on the previous version at the bottom of the page (in the first batch i didn't discriminate between say RMNH.AVES.101788 and RMNH.AVES.101788_1, so the latest upload - other side of the label - is recorded as a new version). I ll ask a curator about your other point. Best regards Hansmuller (talk) 07:48, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Renamed them per their curation tags - MPF (talk) 19:41, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@MPF Naturalis bird curator Pepijn Kamminga commented that he deplores the "slightly dated nomenclature" in the Naturalis bird database. Regards, Hansmuller (talk) 14:04, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be surprised if there's any museum anywhere which has its nomenclature up to date :-) MPF (talk) 19:41, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
They can't keep up, perhaps linked databases can fix this in the future. Hansmuller (talk) 09:14, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Dear HansMuller, I changed the determination of the drawing with the head of an eagle form Spizaetus ornatus to Spilornis cheela. The first is South American species the second is Oriental and has white lining in its crest. Greeting, --HWN 08:19, 16 October 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hwdenie (talk • contribs) 08:19, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Dear/Beste Hwdenie, welbedankt! I have put your determinations in the metadata fields (you can do that too for further determinations, if you like.) If you know more, please continue! Hansmuller (talk) 09:14, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

NB File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - RMNH.AVES.10243 - Dendrocitta occipitalis Müller, 1836 - Corvidae - bird skin specimen.jpg => File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - RMNH.AVES.10243 - Dendrocitta occipitalis occipitalis Müller, 1836 - Corvidae - bird skin specimen.jpg. Hansmuller (talk) 16:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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That's OK, wanted to get rid of it myself, thanks, Hansmuller (talk) 09:14, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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@Jarekt : copyright ✓ Done. This is all simple old stuff, author died 1905. These images were partial failures - no metadata - during GWToolset batch upload in my wikipedian in residence project at KITLV/University Library Leiden. Description etc. still to be done. Thanks for pointing me out, best regards, Hansmuller (talk) 12:44, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:"Krawang-lijn" - KITLV 1402822.jpg

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Hallo Hansmuller, typo gecorrigeerd, ik veronderstel dat dit okay is. Meent U dat ook de filenaam dient rechtgezet? Lotje (talk) 09:18, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Lotje, welbedankt voor uw correctie, maar het was geen typo!

Dus ik denk dat Krawang en Karawang naast elkaar kunnen bestaan. Hoe heet de lijn nu?

  • De titel is correct door de aanhalingstekens: zo werd de lijn genoemd, staat op de kaart => bestandsnaam kan zo blijven. Karawang is een hypercorrectie, maar het voordeel is dat nu beide zoektermen werken voor deze foto.

Met vriendelijke groet, Hansmuller (talk) 11:20, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Zou de lijn nu Padalarang-Karawang kunnen heten? Lotje (talk) 12:39, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Biohist not machine readable

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Hello Hans,

An attempt is made to make all information templates on commons machine readable, to allow for more automatic dereviation of information. The Template:Biohist which you created is not machine readable. Making you currently nr. 1 in this list. See also Commons:Machine-readable data. Also a ping @Jarekt as he is very familiar with information templates and machine readable data.

Mvg, Basvb (talk) 19:57, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hans, the way we create new infoboxes is by extending old ones, that way as many as possible field names are translated to other languages and all the author/source etx are correctly marked and maintained as the standards change. Current set of standard infoboxes can be found at COM:Infobox templates. See for example Template:Fotothek-Description, Template:NARA-image-full or Template:Walters Art Museum artwork. --Jarekt (talk) 05:19, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Basvb and @Jarekt,
  • good idea to make information templates machine readable.
  • what do you mean by "dereviation of information"?
  • the noinfo-list where i'm no 1. states "Hansmuller 4208" files, but Biohist is used 80.000+ times, suggesting that 76.000 files are machine readable and ok?
  • Biohist uses Template:Information as a model - just as some others. O, i copied Template:Information to Template:Biohist-information, perhaps there's the rub?
  • As this Template-business is intricate, could you as experts suggest improvements for Biohist?

Thanks, best regards, Hansmuller (talk) 13:11, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hans, We on commons maintain only a few "official" infobox templates, all listed at COM:Infobox templates. All other infobox templates are created by expanding one of the "official" infoboxes, I would suggest {{Artwork}} which will have some extra fields and will call {{Cite journal}} and {{Taxonavigation}}. May be we should expand and adapt {{Specimen}} or {{Fossil}} templates? So here are the steps:
  1. create Template:Biohist/sandbox and only change that template for time being
  2. map as many current Biohist fields as possible to {{Artwork}} fields as well as {{Cite journal}} and {{Taxonavigation}} (do you need other similar templates)
  3. for all the rest of the fields we need to find if other templates already have i18n for them and if not than create Template:Biohist/i18n page where we will translate the field names. Se for example Template:Piłsudski Institute document/i18n or Template:NARA-image-full/I18n
--Jarekt (talk) 16:53, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Empty herbarium sheets

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Dear Hans Muller,

File:Naturalis Biodiversity Center - L.4015311 - Dicranopteris linearis (Burm.f.) Underw. var. ferruginea (Blume) Holttum - Gleicheniaceae - Plant type specimen.jpeg contains no plant. Should those files get deleted?--Kopiersperre (talk) 23:35, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I was doubtful of this matter too, but experts on Wikipedia say in general labels show the naming history of types and are valuable. When Naturalis continues the upload of plant types a complete picture of the collection will emerge and criteria for deletion can be established. Regards, Hansmuller (talk) 10:37, 27 December 2015 (UTC) PS. I just enjoyed your nice charts Hansmuller (talk) 10:44, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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